12-15-2016, 05:34 PM (This post was last modified: 03-25-2017 09:37 PM by dizzy.)

It's been a while now since the second print run of the HP 50g manual sets and the requests for another batch keep coming in, so it's about time to relent and have another set made. The HP 50g is still going strong, and is still IMHO the most capable engineering calculator on the market. It's well worth investing in some hard-copy manuals since HP decided not to bother supplying them.
If you'd like to get your hands on either of the above two-volume sets of manuals, you'll have another chance shortly. I'm just calculating some prices, which I anticipate being similar to last time, and we can look at perhaps printing at the end of January, assuming we get the numbers needed. Stay tuned and I'll get some payment links up soon.
In case you missed the original discussions, this is basically a crowdfunded effort to have these manuals produced in hard-copy form for a reasonable price, which is possible if we get sufficient numbers (around 20 for each set). The printing is done in the UK and I'll dispatch all the manuals myself (they've gone everywhere from Finland to Brazil previously). The pound is very weak at the moment so it might prove to be a good time to buy if you're not in the UK.
The end result looks like this:
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The payment pages are now available at:
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I'm still interested in getting a complete set.

12-16-2016, 06:01 AM (This post was last modified: 12-16-2016 06:02 AM by Etienne Victoria.)

+1
Thank you for your effort in providing this set.
E.

I think this is a very good idea and I'm very interested in supporting/buying a set of hardcopies.

Count me in for one set.
Alan

You can also include me for a set of manuals.

Unfortunately the 'same as last time' doesn't say much for a person that didn't see the last print. I'm interested in theory, but I don't know should I or not.

+1
Thank you for your organizing this.
Anders

(12-16-2016 02:39 PM)Vtile Wrote: Unfortunately the 'same as last time' doesn't say much for a person that didn't see the last print. I'm interested in theory, but I don't know should I or not.

There are photos in the original post.
I got a set in the 2nd batch, and I can tell you it worths every penny.
Try search the threads from last year, IIRC it started in February 2015 and finished one year later, but no so sure about it, there you can find unanimous positive feedback.
Cheers

Dizzy, don't forget members who already signed in on the old threads!
http://www.hpmuseum.org/forum/thread-977-page-7.html
http://www.hpmuseum.org/forum/thread-384-page-12.html

(12-16-2016 02:39 PM)Vtile Wrote: Unfortunately the 'same as last time' doesn't say much for a person that didn't see the last print. I'm interested in theory, but I don't know should I or not.

I'll have the details in a day or two. No need to make any commitments just yet.

12-17-2016, 12:14 AM (This post was last modified: 12-17-2016 12:14 AM by dizzy.)

(12-16-2016 11:49 PM)Helix Wrote: Dizzy, don't forget members who already signed in on the old threads!
http://www.hpmuseum.org/forum/thread-977-page-7.html
http://www.hpmuseum.org/forum/thread-384-page-12.html

I'll try and get in touch with those from the old threads in case they don't see this one, but I'll be setting up a page for making payments rather than trying to keep track of everyone here. I'm sure we'll get enough people again.

(12-16-2016 02:39 PM)Vtile Wrote: Unfortunately the 'same as last time' doesn't say much for a person that didn't see the last print. I'm interested in theory, but I don't know should I or not.

I have a set from the first run. Beautifully done, very clear print, robust binding, yet easy to move pages, about as nice as they can be. Well worth the price, you won't be sorry.

Dizzy,
Please count me for a full set.

+1 for one set.
Thank you for doing this!

Put me down for a set of both manuals too, please.

(12-17-2016 12:36 AM)rprosperi Wrote:

(12-16-2016 02:39 PM)Vtile Wrote: Unfortunately the 'same as last time' doesn't say much for a person that didn't see the last print. I'm interested in theory, but I don't know should I or not.

I have a set from the first run. Beautifully done, very clear print, robust binding, yet easy to move pages, about as nice as they can be. Well worth the price, you won't be sorry.

Enthusiastically seconded. I have a set too, and they are outstanding. Thanks again to Dizzy for making these available. A real pleasure to use for those of us that prefer a book in the hand over a .pdf on the screen.
Brad

I may have missed it, but is there an 'estimated price' (euros or pounds sterling) for the two 50g manuals, assuming you have at least 20 people place orders? Also, the two manuals may have some considerable weight for shipping to be considered. I'm very interested, but would like to know what ballpark price we're talking about when it comes to printing, packing and shipping to the U.S.
I did print my own copy of the users guide and used Richard Schwartz's method of binding using Aleene's Tacky Glue. It came out nicely, but I do prefer the spiral bound manuals and would prefer the two manual set.
~Jim~

(12-16-2016 02:39 PM)Vtile Wrote: Unfortunately the 'same as last time' doesn't say much for a person that didn't see the last print. I'm interested in theory, but I don't know should I or not.

I have a set and can heartily endorse this product! The type is clear, the pages are of great quality and the binding will outlive me. I don't give testimonials lightly but these are a great bargain.
Tom L

(12-20-2016 12:21 PM)jjohnson873 Wrote: I may have missed it, but is there an 'estimated price' (euros or pounds sterling) for the two 50g manuals, assuming you have at least 20 people place orders? Also, the two manuals may have some considerable weight for shipping to be considered. I'm very interested, but would like to know what ballpark price we're talking about when it comes to printing, packing and shipping to the U.S.
I did print my own copy of the users guide and used Richard Schwartz's method of binding using Aleene's Tacky Glue. It came out nicely, but I do prefer the spiral bound manuals and would prefer the two manual set.
~Jim~

From searching the past archives, it appears that the last time the two 50g manuals were printed, the cost was £16 plus shipping costs. Anyone recall the costs of shipping these two manuals from UK to the U.S.?
~ Jim ~

(01-17-2019 05:13 AM)JDW Wrote: So could you. Ponder that. :-)

James - The difference is Mark is not demanding that someone do something NOW, because you would like a printed manual.
Dizzy organized the effort, researched what format, size and grouping of chapters make sense in each volume, prepared the masters and arranged the print run, then took orders, collected funds, manually packaged and mailed the manual sets all over the world. Then he did I believe 2 additional print runs when more folks showed interest. There can be no question that Dizzy gives lots of time freely to benefit the community.
The fact that you happened to discover all this years later, and want another run done so you can purchase a set, is not cause to criticize Dizzy, and demand he prioritize this effort to satisfy your whim. While he has indicated he would do yet another run, I believe it's reasonable to conclude he has been busy with other things in life, and will get to this when he has time.
If you need a set so badly, I have a set of printed 50g AUR manuals I'll sell you. These are the original sets sold by hpcalc.org, which are essentially the same except they are 8.5 x 11 (also spiral bound) instead of the smaller size Dizzy uses, making them easier to read, but a bit larger to handle.
Please contact me off list if you'd like to purchase them. I suppose this offer is open to other folks too, but I'd give James first choice as the offer was motivated by his request.

(01-17-2019 02:17 PM)rprosperi Wrote: ..I have a set of printed 50g AUR manuals I'll sell you. These are the original sets sold by hpcalc.org, which are essentially the same except they are 8.5 x 11 (also spiral bound) instead of the smaller size Dizzy uses, making them easier to read, but a bit larger to handle.

I've been exchanging PM's with Bob and would like to publicly express my humble and sincere thanks for his extreme kindness in offering me this wonderful opportunity. As I mentioned to Bob in a PM just a moment ago, the two manuals will certainly be put to good use. A thousand thanks for your generous offer, Bob!

(01-18-2019 01:32 AM)JDW Wrote: I've been exchanging PM's with Bob and would like to publicly express my humble and sincere thanks for his extreme kindness in offering me this wonderful opportunity. As I mentioned to Bob in a PM just a moment ago, the two manuals will certainly be put to good use. A thousand thanks for your generous offer, Bob!

Sure, happy to help. It's better the manuals are appreciated and used, than sitting in a stack here. I feel a bit like Santa on the Island of Misfit Toys..

01-18-2019, 01:11 PM (This post was last modified: 01-18-2019 01:12 PM by dizzy.)

01-18-2019, 08:00 PM

(01-18-2019 01:11 PM)dizzy Wrote: I'll have some prices shortly. Stay tuned.

thank you!

I'm interested in a set also. I missed the first several rounds. Now I'm in Europe most of the year so shipping should be easier and cheaper.

I would buy a set if you have any stock.